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Hacker News · 首页· mikeodds·· 2026-10-07AI 评分33

Hacker News 讨论 Airbnb 房东用设备检测监控房屋占用

Device detection and occupancy monitoring for Airbnb hosts

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Hacker News 首页帖子分享 Minut 的 Crowd Detect 功能,它通过统计房源附近的 iOS 设备数量并与房东设定的阈值比较,超出时发送警报,帮助 Airbnb 房东发现聚会或超员。评论区讨论了该方案仅支持 iOS 的局限,有人提出可用树莓派加蓝牙适配器或 WiFi 信号检测替代,也有人指出 MAC 地址随机化使 Android 设备更难被识别。

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Device detection and occupancy monitoring for Airbnb hosts (minut.com)
6 points by mikeodds 39 minutes ago | hide | past | favorite | 13 comments

>> How does Crowd Detect estimate occupancy? >> It detects the number of nearby iOS devices in a property and compares it to your defined threshold. If the count is exceeded, Minut sends an alert.

OK so Android users are safe, then. Woohoo!


Wouldn't this be possible with a NUC/RaspberryPi and a bluetooth adapter?

e.g. if you suddenly start seeing tons of beacons above the historical maximum, that's a good indicator.

(Not trying to be "dropbox is just rsync", just commenting on the iOS only limitation)


I'd much prefer this over a host slapping up cameras everywhere.

To anyone wanting to throw parties at an airbnb, switch to Android!


Interesting that it can only count iOS devices considering Apple is more privacy focused. What's the secret sauce that prevents Android phones being counted in the same way?


wasn't there an algo developed that would use wifi signal as a way to detect humans / movements even behind walls.

I imagine that would be a neater solution. if all what you need is a wifi receiver.


Absolutely, maybe 15 years ago, and it was / is used by shops to detect recurring visitors and get a better understanding of their behavior.

It’s also why anonymization of wifi started being pushed by Apple et al, which still does provide a stable client id but that’s only being broadcast as part of the DHCP handshake, which cannot be used here.


I'm guessing it's because iPhones are easier to characterize over dozens of different android MAC address prefixes.

But with MAC address randomization, I don't recall Apple doing anything different than other vendors so not sure what they are detecting that an Android wouldn't reveal as well.

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