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拒绝 OpenAI 和 Anthropic:ChatGPT 与 Claude 永远无法保护隐私

Just say no to OpenAI and Anthropic

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Micah Lee 撰文呼吁拒绝 OpenAI 和 Anthropic,称 ChatGPT 和 Claude 永远无法做到隐私保护,因为这两家公司只提供闭源模型,用户付费使用聊天或 API 时,公司有权查看用户的一切行为。

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Just say no to OpenAI and Anthropic (micahflee.com)
40 points by DeepLogin 19 minutes ago | hide | past | favorite | 6 comments

> ChatGPT and Claude will never be private

> These companies only offer closed versions of their powerful models (despite the word "open" in "OpenAI"). You pay them for chat and/or API access, and they are allowed to look at everything you do.

How should I reconcile this claim with 'Google Vertex' and 'Amazon Bedrock' being offered as providers with zero data retention on https://openrouter.ai/anthropic/claude-opus-5.5#providers?


"but my vibes-based opinion from using it is that it's basically on par with Claude Opus 5.5 for software engineering." is an outright lie that's qualified by a "well in my opinion.."

unless you're comparing the most extreme specific harnesses to claude code that's just false.

..and I have a lot of disdain toward Anthropic , & I think GLM is great (although too expensive outside the z plans), but it's just wrong by every scorable metric.


I'm concerned our media / political ecosystem is too dysfunctional to not repeat the mistakes we made with Big Tech & Social again with Big Ai. I find it curious how split the dev community is, and especially HN, is on this, which has long been skeptical and speaking truth to power. I'm surprised at how quickly the public switched to abdicating to Big Ai's claims and recommendations. These people do not have our interests in mind.

Great piece, thanks for putting some of my thoughts in organically sourced words.


Has the HN population really been skeptical? I think most see the scam (uber, WeWork, Airbnb, etc) for what they are (mostly illegal efforts to steamroll laws and blitz scale to a monopoly), and they want in.


Everything's a grift to our current leaders and media. The specifics are wholly irrelevant and replaceable. crypto, AI, it's buzzwords and the important thing is how much money they can make off the grift du-jour.

Of course there are differences with the impact AI is having economically and the devastation wrought by datacenters -but that doesn't matter to the media or the politicians; they simply want their greenbacks, specifics and effects be damned.


I hear more people talking about this, the wealth inequality, the dysfunction, the blatant corruption. We like to look for easy quick fixes, but remedying the last 50 years will likely take just as long.

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